Jul 15, 08 9:48am
On Ezam warns Anwar: I will reveal your dark secrets
Paul: Lets separate politics from private life. There are no saints in politics. Dr Mahathir is not a saint, but a ‘devil incarnate’ as someone described him.
Abdullah is also not a saint, but a liar who doesn't keep his promise not to increase petrol price before the time he himself set. Najib is also not a saint, as many believe that he is lying about not knowing the Mongolian lady who was murdered.
Former US President Clinton is also not a saint, but very capable and well-received by the Americans despite his sex scandal.
Throughout history many other successful politicians were not perfect in their private lives.
So what is Ezam trying to say, warning Anwar about revealing his dark secrets? Ezam should know that many Malaysians are supporting Anwar's reformasi programme to bring about changes for a better government.
Anwar's personal life (even if he is a really a gay) is a non-issue. Anwar will not live forever. But reformasi will continue and bring about a better Malaysia.
Ezam should not have quit the team in the first place. I think Ezam has lost sight of his principles to struggle for a better Malaysia. Ezam has ruined his own future.
Habib RAK: A person like Ezam is a disgrace to all concerned, be they PKR, Umno or Malaysia at large. If there are some dark secrets about Anwar, Ezam should volunteer them immediately so that the nation is not disadvantaged.
Instead, he is blackmailing Anwar for his own personal interests. Then he goes around projecting himself as a high morals individual.
He has no shame for himself and his own family and by extension he has no concern for the welfare of the nation.
Individuals like him are traitors. What happened to his report on the second finance minister? Now he has joined forces with Umno and preaches.
Most of the public doesn’t care whether it is BN or PR when it comes to corruption and misdeeds by individuals towards the nation. We want all of them out.
If Anwar is not good for our beloved nation, tell us now. This goes for all individuals from any party.
JKS: I'm disappointed by Ezam. I thought Ezam went into Umno to reform Umno, which desperately needs reform if Malaysia is to have a true democracy.
But this latest threat is a personal demand to trade political favours, another quid pro quo (you don't kick me personally and I won't kick you personally).
If Ezam is referring to some Anwar secrets that will stop the country from going forward (instead of some old mistakes that can be remedied), then by all means reveal them for the good of the country.
Ezam should reveal such secrets whether or not he is being discredited by a conspiracy theory. Such information should not be used as a chip to extort for personal gain or protection.
If Ezam is referring to Anwar's personal problems, style, even political manipulation, especially those that occurred before Anwar's life-changing experience of jailing, beating, and unjust sentencing, then I don't really want to hear about them.
Ezam would only look like a damaged and untrustworthy politician with such a threat. This notoriety will surely kill his hope of gaining the trust of Umno and reforming Umno. That will hurt Malaysia's democracy.
Although not totally similar, Ezam should take a lesson from the tragic hero of Lü Bu, from the Records of Three Kingdoms (the non-novel version).
‘Besides being matchless on the battlefield, Lü Bu was also notorious for having betrayed and slain two separate masters (who were both his adoptive fathers).’
Doraisamy Karuppiah: I am very sorry for the people’s leader (Anwar) to have too many betrayers with him all the while. It’s money versus sincerity, and in Ezam’s case, money has overthrown sincerity.
Anwar’s ambition to be the PM is tarnished by his own lieutenants, who cross to the opposite camp. It is the same in our 1511 Malacca history, where the sultanate of Malacca collapsed to the Portuguese due to corruption and traitors.
Now, in the new episode, our so called Malay leader (Anwar) would be facing the same scenario of the last emperor of the Malacca Sultanate, Sultan Mahmud.
Anwar, Abdullah or even Najib, please don’t trust and encourage traitors who will stab you from behind. Enemies in the front battle are not as dangerous as enemies within us.
Ezam, you can never and will not be given any ministerial post even if you polish your BN leader’s shoes. You are one of the spoiled eggs in the Pakatan basket that Anwar overlooked.
As you said, ‘Anwar will do anything to be a PM’. Then what is your intention to join Umno - to be a savior of Umno or to have some perks offered to you to campaign against Anwar?
D Madden: Personally, I think the sooner everyone comes clean and lets the public decide who is best suited for the job of running Malaysia, the better off everyone will be.
This is the cost you pay for turning politics into a personality cult. At the moment, everyone is smeared with muck and its not hard to conclude that they are all liars.
That's not surprising because lying is legal tender in Malaysia.- everyone does it.
On Sodomy: Anwar turns to Syariah Court
Don: Defamation or fitnah is an offence in Islam. A Muslim should not fitnah a person for some invested interest.
If a person accuses another person of wrongdoing he must come up with evidence. ‘Selling’ oneself to the media and the public by telling them that someone has committed an offence is an act of fitnah, as this will give a wrong perception of the accused.
The onus is on him to prove that the accused person is guilty of the offence, so come up with concrete evidence. This works equally the same in any civil court. If the intention of accusing someone is just to give a bad image of a person, this constitutes an offence in Islam.
For instance, a court case involving an accusation can drag on for many months and this will cause a lot of perceptual damage to the one who is accused, even if the accused were finally found to be innocent.
This can be politically correct and thus some people could take advantage of the law just to tarnish a person’s image – a political enemy.
For this reason, Islam is more sensible in that if you accuse a person of wrongdoing come up with evidence, or else this is tantamount to fitnah and the person who arbitrarily accused another person just for some thrills should be punished accordingly.
In the case of a sexual offence (zina) the accuser has to produce four reliable witnesses who could prove to the judge that the offence actually took place. If this can be done and the offence is proven, then punish the accused accordingly.
If the accuser fails to prove the offence, he has to be punished instead. It is a two-way justice for all. The process in Islam is so clear and this will help deter irresponsible people from making false accusations that could defame a person’s image in society.
In Islam, a person’s image is highly regarded and any form of fitnah - insinuating any form of sexual act - cannot be accepted. Islam does not judge a person through the media or gripping political propaganda.
On Peeved Anwar will not go to police HQ
Shiek Yerbootay: How much more showboating does Anwar want to do? It doesn't matter if he agreed verbally or not to attend the inquiry. A court order has to be delivered, it is an official notice.
If you are running a company would you continue to deliver goods to a buyer if he doesn't sign the delivery invoices? How would you have proof in court if the other party defaults on payment?
It seems Anwar has an abhorrence to 'hard evidence/proof' when it's not in his favour.
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